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BM High Hide and top coats question.

Discussion in 'Coating it up - Help what's the best paint for...?' started by Tomcio, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. Tomcio

    Tomcio Brush Navigator Bar Member

    Do you know?
    High Hide Drying time: At the temperature of +25° C and relative air humidity 50% the paint dries approx. 1 hour. At mentioned weather conditions the next coat apply after min. 3 hours. Top coats from the Benjamin Moore & Co. offer apply after min. 24 hours after FRESH START® HIGH-HIDINIG ALL PURPOSE PRIMER 046 application.
    @BenjaminMooreUK is this 24 h in all circumstances or only when blocking tannin etc.?
     
    Last edited: Nov 4, 2019
  2. Tomcio

    Tomcio Brush Navigator Bar Member

    So for how long do you leave HH before top coats if stain blocking is not the case good people? Primed over pre cat factory lacquer at the moment and don't want any problems.
     
  3. BenjaminMooreUK

    BenjaminMooreUK PPS Master Craftsman PPS Sponsor

    Hi Tomcio,
    I'm not sure I understand your question. Which BM top coats are you referring to regarding the 24 hour guidance?
    Thanks
     
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  4. mistcoat

    mistcoat Colour Changing Cowboy Staff Member PPS Painter Bar Member

    Glad it wasn't just me :scratchhead:
     
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  5. siwel

    siwel PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    I use Stix Primer as an U/C and there have been times when I have top coated with Advance gloss after One Hour
     
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  6. Tomcio

    Tomcio Brush Navigator Bar Member

    Thank you for the reply.
    It's Scuffx and Aura interior.
    Do I have to wait 24 h, with top coating, after priming hard non porous surfaces like old existing coatings and new factory pre cat primers with High Hide?
     
  7. Tomcio

    Tomcio Brush Navigator Bar Member

    I'm embarrassed.
    The 24 h Drying time is mentioned on the data sheet from April 2015 that can be found on the Polish Benjamin Moore website.
    On the UK and US BM websites no such information exist and the recommended recoating is 2h.

    So I asked my supplier MRCB and the answer was when going over factory primers make sure that they're not cellulose based and wait 24 h before finishing with Scuffx.
     
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  8. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    At Bm hq day 2h was quoted but you need to use your judgment. You need air blowing and dry with warm air like in summer. Maybe some of us have gone on quicker than 2 hours with good drying conditions :whistle: . I was spraying trim with uc yesterday and it seemed to be dry in 30 mins. I nearly always leave an hour after I think it's dry, so the trim yesterday would have been 1.5 hours before I'd top off. Tin quotes are only a guide. What dose Irish BM site say :hysterical:
     
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  9. BenjaminMooreUK

    BenjaminMooreUK PPS Master Craftsman PPS Sponsor

    Hi @Tomcio
    Oh that explains it........we couldn’t find any reference to 24hrs on anything...... we’ll have to nag the Polish distributor to update their datasheets!!!
    Helen
     
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  10. barry

    barry PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    IMO absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. You diligently searched legit advice and then researched on top of that. Far from embarrassed I’d say it makes you a rare specimen of great diligence @Tomcio :doff:
    (PS You did say you would send me a fat cheque if I put the above on pps... I’ll PM my bank details instead of a cheque :hysterical::hysterical: )
     
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  11. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    I was at Bletchley Park last week. The polls were the ones that started cracking the Enigma in the 30s then shared information with us and got the ball rolling. Clever bunch.
    Maybe one of @Tomcio relatives
     
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  12. mistcoat

    mistcoat Colour Changing Cowboy Staff Member PPS Painter Bar Member

    I’m not sure I believe that.
    Let’s have a Pole about it :biggrin:
     
  13. Peter Humphreys

    Peter Humphreys "it's a paintbrush, not a wand"! Bar Member

    Who will Czech the results?
     
  14. Waynetta

    Waynetta PPS Master Craftsman PPS Painter Bar Member

    Let’s not Russian to anything
     
  15. Hang it all

    Hang it all PPS Tradesman Bar Member

    I dont Bolivia all making rubbish country jokes today
     
  16. Peter Humphreys

    Peter Humphreys "it's a paintbrush, not a wand"! Bar Member

    It doesn’t hurt to Peru s a few while you’re Chilean out.
     
  17. Kevin court

    Kevin court East London's best kept decorating secret. Bar Member

    Some of you could make a Korea out of these country puns.
    For me I'm gonna Finnish now and Guyana stop this malarkey.
     
  18. mistcoat

    mistcoat Colour Changing Cowboy Staff Member PPS Painter Bar Member

    Belieze for the love of God, can we stop all this. I'd Haiti to see this thread go off tropic.
     
  19. Kevin court

    Kevin court East London's best kept decorating secret. Bar Member

    Did you say this thread is going off tropic @mistcoat. I don't Bolivia. Oh schitt that one's been done. Iran out of ideas now.
     
  20. mistcoat

    mistcoat Colour Changing Cowboy Staff Member PPS Painter Bar Member

    @Kevin court Indeed I did say off tropic :biggrin:
    Haven't time to explain why as I Moscow now :wave:
     
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