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Sprayman's GX21FF

Discussion in 'Spray Painting' started by Colour Republic, May 23, 2020.

  1. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    Hi ya guys, hope all are well and keeping safe:thumbup:

    I see a number of you have got this hybrid Graco lovingly conceived by @SpraymanUK , so looking for some feedback on it now some of you have had it for some time...

    What i'm really hoping for is some bloody good reason not to buy it, so piggy gets to see another day!

  2. Peter Humphreys

    Peter Humphreys "it's a paintbrush, not a wand"! Bar Member

    How could you? He has such a sweet face...
  3. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    I know right! He's hoping I keep to my promise of never buying a Graco product again, after the disaster that was the Handheld FF Max. But it's been 8 years now and i'm starting to soften to the idea of forgiving them.
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  4. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    It was on my list. There is no reason not to buy. Unless you are planing on spraying loads like priming houses. It's a entry level for trim and walls and ceilings. I want it with the new filter baffle and was on track to buy one now then covid hit. I follow thread with interest
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  5. ahenrypd

    ahenrypd PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    If it's being used continuously for large areas you might want a bigger pump. Is that a good enough reason to save piggy?

    I have the smaller gxff and it has been great for domestic work. The pressure can fluctuate a little at lower pressures. I mainly use it for woodwork with the occasional ceiling and wall. I feel it might struggle if I used it all the time on walls and ceilings. Having said that it isn't the gx21 hybrid.
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  6. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    TBH 90% of its workload would be doors, windows, staircases and furniture... so would have just got a GXFF, but it’s nice to have that little bit of extra power and the option to spray the odd room from time to time... hence the very reason Sprayman thought it would be a good idea to combine the 2 machines.
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  7. LMDec

    LMDec PPS Craftsman Bar Member

    I’ve used it on about 5 refurbs & a huge Victorian house ceiling & walls. Brilliant machine. Some of the noises coming out of it now don’t sound to clever so I’m retiring it to woodwork only & getting something more powerful.
  8. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    Pump is easy swap on that. DIY job @LMDec

    TriTech T4 or 5 next maybe?
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  9. RonyT

    RonyT PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    @Colour Republic I have the GXFF21 machine from @SpraymanUK and I think it’s brilliant.
    I’ve used it a lot in GX21 for lids and walls, mainly for misting and finishing ceilings.

    The switch to FF set up is simple and to my surprise the shorter hose and thinner bore means there isn’t much wastage. If you select the right FF tip for the product the finish is really good.

    I don’t spray day in day out so it’s perfect for me.

    I upgraded the gun to one of these and it’s really nice to use.

    I don’t have anything negative to say about it.
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  10. Gazza

    Gazza PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    Why did you up grade the gun mate, and what are the differences between the 2 guns?
    Got to say this thread is right up my street this week as I was got the wagner xvlp out this week for the first time in ages and think I may become a spray convert and this machine of our sponsor interests me as it does @Colour Republic
  11. RonyT

    RonyT PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    @Gazza. There is nothing wrong with the graco gun supplied with the unit. I just found I had hand fatigue using it and wanted the ability from going from a 4 to a 2 finger trigger set up without changing gun.

    The ease at which you can pull on the contract gun is much smoother and felt I was more in control.

    It’s also very shiny and blue :biggrin:
  12. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    I thought that America Greco guy cuts the handle as a diy modify as he hates the 4 fingered gun. I have foggy memory of that
  13. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    Glad you mentioned the gun.!

    In my head because I want the machine mainly in FF mode, I assumed it would come with the FTX 2 finger gun, but of course it doesn't, as it's a GX21 with additional hopper, hose and filter, so would come with the pre-packaged SG3 4 finger gun.

    Think i'd go for the compact 2f version of the contractor gun, rather than the adjustable one. If I really wanted the 4f, i'd just swap to the SG3... but i'm also thinking of a 400mm extension ( as even though i'll really use it for walls and ceilings, have got 1 large 80sqm ceiling in mind)... and a 4.5m hose as on most jobs I take the doors off, plus for bench work... schitt this is getting expensive, gone from an £800 GXFF to a £1,400 GX21FF with accessories :headwall:
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  14. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    On a related note... anybody know if pump armour has a shelf life?:scratchhead: Just found an 8 year old bottle on the racks

  15. bobajob

    bobajob PPS Tradesman Bar Member

    I’ve got a Graco for at least 15 years never seen pump armour always antifreeze it’s a garage that freezes no problem at all
  16. RonyT

    RonyT PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    I saw the dinky version go on sale. Very small and lightweight but I’d feel inadequate :biggrin:
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  17. Colour Republic

    Colour Republic PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    I seem to remember a thread on here years and years back where the subject of pump amour and antifreeze coming up, and whilst both have high concentrates of ethylene glycol, I seem to remember there was one important difference :think:

    who was our resident scientist? Hang on let me see if I can find the thread
  18. mick partington

    mick partington PPS Master Craftsman Bar Member

    you can,t put pump amour in your car ?
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  19. Wayners

    Wayners Happy to be alive. Bar Member

    Loads use car antifreeze it seems, however. Void warranty. Not really the right thing to use and what you actually saving. Use the proper stuff and look after your kit. You know the pump amour has been tested and shown to work without problems. If you lived in Alaska and had old sprayer that owed you nothing then maybe car antifreeze and chance it, not hear though. No point. That's what I think..
  20. bitzz

    bitzz Born to fish. Forced to work Bar Member

    Rob, I'm sure if you ring up Mike @SpraymanUK he will talk through it all with you, and then happily relieve you of your monies, and make your wallet lighter. :biggrin:
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